I nominate Cardinal Kasper to be the Primate of the Inoffensive Church of Sweetness.
How can he assert that, in a second and non-sacramental marriage, there will be commitment and it "will last forever"? The track record of some of these oft-married folks says just the opposite.
Granted, the truth must be preached with love, always, but it must be preached boldly, bravely, and with love for the eternal and true happiness of those who need to hear and follow it.
Regarding conscience, Kasper sounds like he is taking a page from the Pelosi, Biden, Cuomo, Kennedy--gee, all the Democrats'--playbook. No Catholic's conscience can be "mature"--or "right", as the Church describes it--without being founded on and impelled by the complete Word of God, that which is written and in Sacred Tradition or the Magisterium. Using one's conscience to choose and remain in a state of sin means the person--or his advisors--has been deceived.
Finally, Cardinal Kasper: How is your approach NOT able to be applied to so-called gay marriage?
Listening to this one would think that the Church made up the doctrine on the disolubility of marriage and the adulterous nature of second unions, but no, Jesus said these things. How can the Cardinal correct Our Lord?
He is promoting a heretical view of marriage and adultery. He just said we should overlook the ongoing adultery because the second "marriage" has other benefits. Seriously, if there was any question as to whether Kaspar rejects the teaching of Jesus on adultery,the mask is now off after this interview.
Satan is a creature of God too, I guess that has positive aspects. Adultery and murder have their benefits too of course. Betraying and crucifying Jesus has led to positive results!
Cardinal Kasper is certainly a heretic, and needs to be denounced as such and censured. He should seek to follow more closely the words of Our Lord on the matter.
Unbelievable, at 2:37 the video shows a woman with a black eye. So the physical abuses caused all the divorces? This Cardinal is leading people away from God.
Please Cardinal Deceiver, people who commit adultery don't have "mature conscience." Notice the serious and lovely music playing in the background of the people in the adulterous relationships. A cheesy video made by liberals of course.
What about 2nd and 3rd marriages Cardinal Judas? Is that okay too? They love each other.
What about polygamy Cardinal Judas? The man and his ten wives love each other, and they have kids too. Is that okay too Cardinal Judas?
Yep, lower the standard until THERE IS NO STANDARD LEFT.
Arise, O Lord, and judge your own cause. Remember your reproaches to those who are filled with foolishness all through the day. Listen to our prayers, for foxes have arisen seeking to destroy the vineyard whose winepress you alone have trod. When you were about to ascend to your Father, you committed the care, rule, and administration of the vineyard, an image of the triumphant church, to Peter, as the head and your vicar and his successors. The wild boar from the forest seeks to destroy it and every wild beast feeds upon it.
Rise, Peter, and fulfil this pastoral office divinely entrusted to you as mentioned above. Give heed to the cause of the holy Roman Church, mother of all churches and teacher of the faith, whom you by the order of God, have consecrated by your blood. Against the Roman Church, you warned, lying teachers are rising, introducing ruinous sects, and drawing upon themselves speedy doom. Their tongues are fire, a restless evil, full of deadly poison. They have bitter zeal, contention in their hearts, and boast and lie against the truth.
We beseech you also, Paul, to arise. It was you that enlightened and illuminated the Church by your doctrine and by a martyrdom like Peter's. For now a new Porphyry rises who, as the old once wrongfully assailed the holy apostles, now assails the holy pontiffs, our predecessors.
Rebuking them, in violation of your teaching, instead of imploring them, he is not ashamed to assail them, to tear at them, and when he despairs of his cause, to stoop to insults. He is like the heretics "whose last defence," as Jerome says, "is to start spewing out a serpent's venom with their tongue when they see that their causes are about to be condemned, and spring to insults when they see they are vanquished."
I nominate Cardinal Kasper to be the Primate of the Inoffensive Church of Sweetness.
ReplyDeleteHow can he assert that, in a second and non-sacramental marriage, there will be commitment and it "will last forever"? The track record of some of these oft-married folks says just the opposite.
Granted, the truth must be preached with love, always, but it must be preached boldly, bravely, and with love for the eternal and true happiness of those who need to hear and follow it.
Regarding conscience, Kasper sounds like he is taking a page from the Pelosi, Biden, Cuomo, Kennedy--gee, all the Democrats'--playbook. No Catholic's conscience can be "mature"--or "right", as the Church describes it--without being founded on and impelled by the complete Word of God, that which is written and in Sacred Tradition or the Magisterium. Using one's conscience to choose and remain in a state of sin means the person--or his advisors--has been deceived.
Finally, Cardinal Kasper: How is your approach NOT able to be applied to so-called gay marriage?
Vade retro satanis.
ReplyDeletecan we use this logic for all sinful acts? or just marriage
ReplyDeleteOne sin at a time. That's how it works.
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ReplyDeleteListening to this one would think that the Church made up the doctrine on the disolubility of marriage and the adulterous nature of second unions, but no, Jesus said these things. How can the Cardinal correct Our Lord?
ReplyDeleteHe is promoting a heretical view of marriage and adultery. He just said we should overlook the ongoing adultery because the second "marriage" has other benefits. Seriously, if there was any question as to whether Kaspar rejects the teaching of Jesus on adultery,the mask is now off after this interview.
ReplyDeleteAs Sonny Corleone sarcastically portrayed 'the Turk's' excited blathering in The God Father: "Badda Beep, Badda Bap, Badda Boop".
ReplyDeleteno. no. just. no. There are so many flaws, not just doctrinal, but also logical and practical, in what he is saying it is not even funny.
ReplyDeleteAnd if a second marriage is okay, the third, fourth, and fifth must be too, so long as they have "commitment," sex, children, etc.
ReplyDeleteSatan is a creature of God too, I guess that has positive aspects.
ReplyDeleteAdultery and murder have their benefits too of course.
Betraying and crucifying Jesus has led to positive results!
Cdl Kasper has a point.
I cannot believe that this man is a cardinal. Perhaps, he is Cardinal Judas. The smoke of Satan has truly entered the Church!
ReplyDeleteCardinal Kasper is certainly a heretic, and needs to be denounced as such and censured. He should seek to follow more closely the words of Our Lord on the matter.
ReplyDeleteWhen they advocate deviancy as "good", they are usually involved themselves.
ReplyDeleteUnbelievable, at 2:37 the video shows a woman with a black eye. So the physical abuses caused all the divorces? This Cardinal is leading people away from God.
ReplyDeletePlease Cardinal Deceiver, people who commit adultery don't have "mature conscience."
Notice the serious and lovely music playing in the background of the people in the adulterous relationships.
A cheesy video made by liberals of course.
What about 2nd and 3rd marriages Cardinal Judas? Is that okay too?
They love each other.
What about polygamy Cardinal Judas?
The man and his ten wives love each other, and they have kids too.
Is that okay too Cardinal Judas?
Yep, lower the standard until THERE IS NO STANDARD LEFT.
Bravo, Cardinal Protestant!
Yippee! Jesus came to license our sins. Who needs redemption? /sarc
ReplyDeleteArise, O Lord, and judge your own cause. Remember your reproaches to those who are filled with foolishness all through the day. Listen to our prayers, for foxes have arisen seeking to destroy the vineyard whose winepress you alone have trod. When you were about to ascend to your Father, you committed the care, rule, and administration of the vineyard, an image of the triumphant church, to Peter, as the head and your vicar and his successors. The wild boar from the forest seeks to destroy it and every wild beast feeds upon it.
ReplyDeleteRise, Peter, and fulfil this pastoral office divinely entrusted to you as mentioned above. Give heed to the cause of the holy Roman Church, mother of all churches and teacher of the faith, whom you by the order of God, have consecrated by your blood. Against the Roman Church, you warned, lying teachers are rising, introducing ruinous sects, and drawing upon themselves speedy doom. Their tongues are fire, a restless evil, full of deadly poison. They have bitter zeal, contention in their hearts, and boast and lie against the truth.
We beseech you also, Paul, to arise. It was you that enlightened and illuminated the Church by your doctrine and by a martyrdom like Peter's. For now a new Porphyry rises who, as the old once wrongfully assailed the holy apostles, now assails the holy pontiffs, our predecessors.
Rebuking them, in violation of your teaching, instead of imploring them, he is not ashamed to assail them, to tear at them, and when he despairs of his cause, to stoop to insults. He is like the heretics "whose last defence," as Jerome says, "is to start spewing out a serpent's venom with their tongue when they see that their causes are about to be condemned, and spring to insults when they see they are vanquished."